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Indiana residents stand up

sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
edited July 2016 in Vaping Regulation Updates
I was trying to put my order in v2.com like normal and I couldn't complete it yesterday so I called customer service and they said our state banned online sales! Idk about you guys but no one around me sells v2 and I'm tired of them taking our rights! I have a simple petition but if anyone can word it better feel free and I'll sign yours otherwise please spread this and get it signed... Maybe v2 will get involved since they'll lose a lot of business?

*Edit, the law isn't really an online ban, more like insane restrictions that only allowed 6 companies to sell e liquid in Indiana.

more info: http://www.vapor4life.com/blog/indiana-ruining-everything-vapers/

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/539#digest-heading

https://wh.gov/iFQiq

Comments

  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    edited July 2016
    ^ This is in addition to Indiana creating new outrageous laws that shut a lot of shops down and created a monopoly. Also putting us in with smokers so we can't use vapor in a lot of places now.

    http://indyvaporshop.com/lawsuit-against-the-state-of-indiana-filed/
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    I guess the petition is somewhat useless but we need to get ahold of our representatives and drive them crazy... The new laws are ridiculous...
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    edited July 2016
    Well ain't life grand. Found out about V2 on one Friday, banned from using their site the very next Friday.

    According to the store locator I may have three within three miles of me. Naturally they're stores that I never go to, they may or may not still have stock. I tried finding one but they couldn't be bothered to put their name where I could see, all I saw was "BP", which seems to be the right place (I looked them up when I got back home and saw a photo of the BP gas station that I had seen.)

    EDIT: I tried to sign it but I'm not sure it worked as it's still showing "1 signed".
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    Really what we need to do is drive our Indiana representatives crazy, I've already contacted about 10 of them. Imagine having thousands driving them crazy over this, they'd probably do something just to get everyone to shut up.
  • rbaker1009rbaker1009 Posts: 1,233Member
    I empathize with you all in Indiana. I live in California and I thought either us or New York would be the first to do something this ridiculous. Big changes are coming for all states when the FDA regulations come in 2 years. All states will likely be buying from a handful (or couple) of companies and online sales are in question for us all. One thing is for sure, the FDA regulations will add tremendous cost to the surviving companies and we will all be paying substantially more than we do now, on or offline.


    I have been as active as possible to fight against FDA overreach and will continue to. If you told me marijuana would be legal and nicotine would be nearly criminalized even 10 years ago I would not have believed it (not that I have anything against marijuana)
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    this is true :( the crazy part is they're not even hitting tobacco this hard... there's still plenty of places you can order it online and they don't regulate the awful chemicals they're putting in it... they're going crazy for no reason... they'd rather have people throwing cigarette butts everywhere, etc......?
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Well, I don't know about you, but I've already placed my first order with an Indiana based retailer, there's another one that has Indiana compliant e-juice that I have bookmarked (I'm not sure if it's okay to post the names of the retailers otherwise I would have.)
  • David1886David1886 Posts: 589Member
    At least you can purchase e-liquid with nicotine in the USA in Australia where I live it is illegal to sell and some states posses but you are allowed to import for personal use as Australian Customs override state laws and allow it to enter the country.
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    edited August 2016
    Selcien, I'm sure it is, I'd really like to know since I can't get it near me... hopefully eventually I can find something like v2 red... thankfully there's someone 15 miles away that at least has v2 pro tanks and vaporizers.... just no juice :(

    I am still ordering v2 red from a site I found until they stop me lol... I'm holding out as long as I can, I don't want to pay in to their monopoly, so many put out of business in a thriving industry it's ridiculous, that'll help the economy (sarcastic of course)...
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    That's terrible David, you wouldn't think Austrailia would be so strict....
  • David1886David1886 Posts: 589Member
    edited August 2016
    @sephiroth7261
    That is because the Australia Government want people to keep smoking analog cigarettes because of the tax they earn a packet of analogs cost around $25.00 AUD and that is mostly tax which they are going to increase in a few months. I have been analog free since 2011 first using Green Smoke then found V2 at the start of 2015 and I love my nicotine hit and also a heavy Vapor but am that much healthier without inhaling all the poison in Analog cigarettes.
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    ^ that's crazy...
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @sephiroth7261

    Okay. I ordered from Hoosier E-Cig. I ordered two Kanger Subvod Starter Sets as they were only $2.50 more (each) than the price of an EX battery, which, I'm only now realizing, wasn't what I had wanted (I wanted the Kanger Subvod Mega TC Starter sets, larger battery, and has temp control.) Oh well, I'm not sending them back as they were intended to be stop gap devices, and to get my feet wet with sub ohming prior to my Smok Osub coming in.

    What I disliked was that I was asked to review my experience immediately after having submitted my order, it's like, I'm sorry, but let's see how quickly you get the product shipped out, and let's see if you sent me working product. Besides that, I got the order processing email this morning at 8:47, the order shipped email followed at 8:58. I chose USPS Priority 2-4 day shipping ($6.12), the tracking info provides what happens at each step, but doesn't have an estimated time of delivery, I hate that. So, the product was priced cheaply (imo), and shipped quickly, now it's just a matter of seeing how they packaged everything, and whether I get working product.

    The site I have bookmarked for juices is Sir Vapes A Lot. I haven't ordered anything and hadn't planned on order anything any time soon, but I've decided that all of my Black Note (Notebook first and then the bottles of Solo) is going to be used on one of the Kanger sets, the other I'll use my one bottle of Irish Cappuccino. I'm not sure how long one bottle will last so I'll want to get something to follow that, and I'll need something for my Smok Osub. I haven't decided what to get yet.
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    yea good idea, as of now I'm just stocking up on v2 red... the 50 ml lasts about 2 weeks for me, I'm not in to the flavory stuff lol but I do want to try green tea mint... BTW Indy Vape shop is having a huge sale to get rid of all the juice they can't have now... $2.50 for most bottles :)
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Did you mean Indy Vapor Shop? The only e-liquid that looked to be on sale was their standard mixes, which didn't interest me. However, their Added Burst Menthol Drops by NicQuid, which wasn't on sale, seemed perfect to me (I don't have to worry about finding a good menthol now, I can pick whatever flavor I want, and add menthol when I need it), so I ordered five bottles of the stuff in the hopes of being able to use it for a very long time to come. It seems that only one drop is needed for a tank, so the question is really just a matter of shelf life. Any idea of how to store it to get the longest shelf life?

    And thanks for pointing me in that direction.  :D
  • sephiroth7261sephiroth7261 Posts: 13Member
    edited August 2016
    I'm not sure, they should all have expiration dates, I think it's usually about 2 years depending on the mix.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    The Added Burst Menthol Drops are 10 ml bottles of pure menthol, I've tried doing a search on storing menthol liquid with no luck.

    Also, I want to add that I have found one upside to this, ordering from within the state results in faster shipping. I placed my order with Hoosier E-Cig Sunday, it shipped yesterday, and arrived today. I checked the authenticity via Kanger Tech's site and they are authentic. I haven't tried them out yet but the first one I put on charge has just finished charging.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Figured I'd post an update.

    I've tried seven of Sir Vapes A Lot's ten flavors (Strawberry Cheesecake, Lemon Cheesecake, Creme De Bleu, Grammy's Cookies, Sweet Mississippi, The Mistress, and Crystal Blue) and I'm still not being able to pick up on the flavor that well, but at this point I'm thinking that the problem is me. I do like the price though as it's the cheapest that I've found so far (that I can buy, found a site that sells really large bottles of juice but they can't ship to Indiana.)

    Also bought a coffee flavor from a local shop (Victory Vapes), the juice smells like coffee, tastes like it although I don't particularly care for it, the really bad part is that the expelled vapor smells like cat piss (just as an fyi, none of the Sir Vapes A Lot flavors I've tried have bad smelling vapor). The bottling seemed rather amateurish but I liked that it was a plastic squeeze bottle (I'm finding that I hate the stupid eye dropper thingy as it's ridiculous to load up a tank with one), and the price was okay, $20 with tax.

    Also found a decent selection of juice at a discount cigarette retailer but the woman that works there thinks that almost none of it will be restocked once sold, so who knows what I'll be able to find there later on. I did pick up a bottle of Cosmic Fog's Kryptonite. Not sure what to think of it, the juice kinda smells like cough syrup to me (but I do like the smell), can't even begin to describe the flavor or expelled vapor smell though, nothing bad like cat piss though, basically, it's a "I don't know.". What I definitely do not like is the price ($24.50 with tax) and that the juice is thick enough that it was very difficult to get it into my new tank (Freemax Starre Pure).

    So the hunt for juice continues.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Don't get your hopes up but I just found some good news for a change.

    https://shopmvg.com/blogs/news/federal-judge-finds-indiana-vaping-law-unconstitutional-but-the-fight-continues

    Article is dated August 22, 2016.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Does anyone know what has changed in Indiana? I haven't been paying attention to vaping, had gone back to smoking my Newports. This week, saw a guy at work vaping on break, made me curious, checked V2's shipping section, and Indiana is no longer included as being one of the obnoxious states preventing purchase from V2. Naturally placed an order for two bottles of their menthol (Black Note's Solo didn't cut it for me, it's a mint, not a menthol). Really surprised that they had a VG version too. Also took advantage of the opportunity to place an order with another site that I had wanted to try, really cheap, hopefully good, but fruit flavors, so no replacement for V2's menthol.
  • samanthasamantha Posts: 3,517Administrator, Moderator admin
    Hey there @Selcien
    Yes, we have added lots of new eliquids and products over the past 1-2 years. Glad to have you back! I am going to look into the Indiana inquiry. I know our legal and/or logistics/shipping team will have more insight into your question. We are just as glad as you to be able to provide vapor products to the good folks in Indiana. :) 

    Let me know how your eliquids perform... if you have any questions or inquiries, feel free to reach out to me anytime. I'm here to help. :)
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @samantha

    Thanks for the response. I did find an article that explains what happened.

    https://www.r2bsmokefree.org/2017/04/26/new-e-liquid-law-in-indiana/

    It looks like it was "simply" a matter of Indiana being forced to remove the nasty parts of it's regulation.

    As for how the juices perform, I'm pretty sure you weren't talking about the budget juices bought from a different site but I'll include them. One of them I can't stand at all, doesn't even smell good to me, and I'm sure that if I try to vape it any more that it'll make me sick (vomit). The thing that I find interesting about that flavor is that I gave that guy that I saw vaping at work 30ml unicorn bottles of each flavor, and he said that the one that I didn't like tasted like skittles to him. That just goes to show how different opinions can be on the same juice. The other one smells fine and has a hint of a berry taste, which is actually promising as I've had a hard time getting flavors from a VG prominent juice, and these two are 80VG/20PG.

    As for the V2 VG Menthol, the dispensing tip is too narrow for the juice, it barely wanted to drip out. Wasn't really a problem though since I do have unicorn bottles and pipettes, so I popped off the dispensing tip, and transferred to a unicorn bottle, well, 30 ml anyway since that's all that would fit.

    As far as the flavor goes, the menthol does seem to be a bit muted to me, and I think it's due to being a VG juice. It's what I needed to order at the time as the two tanks that I had were both DTL, but I've gotten a MTL tank since placing that order, and have two more ordered, so a PG dominant juice is now something that I can consider.

    The current V2 order that I'm waiting on (currently scheduled to be delivered Tuesday) is of particular interest to me. I got a bottle of V2 Platinum Pumpkin Spice, V2 Platinum Peppermint Bark, Charlies Sea Salt Caramel Ice Cream, and Charlies Head Bangin Boogie. Should be a good order to help me determine whether I should even be bothering with a VG dominant juice. Once I get the PG/VG thing figured out then I can start working on getting the nicotine level dialed in.
  • samanthasamantha Posts: 3,517Administrator, Moderator admin
    I love our Pumpkin Spice - I hope you enjoy it. If you need me to look into your order, pls let me know and provide the order #. And yes, figuring out flavor, nicotine preferences takes a little time and patience but once you figure it out, vaping will be that much more enjoyable. Pls let me know if you need anything or have any Q's.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @samantha

    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you but I figured that I should spend some time actually using what I've purchased before expressing any more opinions.

    First off, no, I don't need you to look into any of my orders.

    As far as my experience with the first bottle of V2 VG menthol, I was not able to try the dispensing tip again as I had clipped it off with a pair of scissors, but I have done multiple fills with the second bottle. It's pretty obvious to me that the first fill attempt went as poorly as it did because of inexperience with filling the tank, as well as inexperience with the juice bottle. Finger tip squeezes don't work well on the juice bottle so I have to use a firmer squeeze. I think that the issue is that the VG bottles use the same dispensing tip as the PG bottles, but with VG being thicker it has a harder time getting through the dispensing tip. All the same, I would call this a personal annoyance rather than a packaging problem, much like how I dislike juice being put into glass bottles as I strongly dislike having to use those stupid glass eye droppers to fill a tank.

    As for the V2 VG Menthol itself, I've used it mixed with Black Note Solo (0mg nicotine as I used up all of the bottles that had nicotine back in 2016), and by itself. Sometimes it's okay, sometimes not. I won't say that it's bad because I don't think it is, it's just not something that I'm happy with. I will use all of it, so it's not going to go to waste, just not going to order more. On the plus side V2 does have a really good selection of menthol juices to choose from, and I'm currently waiting on a bottle of V2 Menthol (the PG version), V2 Bold Leaf Menthol, and Brewell Tobacco Series Ice to arrive (currently scheduled to be delivered this Wednesday). I'd be very very surprised if none of them worked for me but if that's the case there are still other options on V2 for me to try. Of course, I do like to point out that even with not being happy with the menthol it is still doing what it needs to do. Bought a pack of Newports yesterday, have only smoked four of them, and I find smoking them to be more and more underwhelming.

    As far as flavor goes, not including menthol. I've found that one of my DTL tanks is not good at flavor, at least not at the wattages that I use. The other DTL tank I have can produce a strong flavor but only with the "flavor ring" (silicone ring) installed in the coil, but that "flavor ring" also results in the juice not being completely vaporized so I'm getting trace amounts of juice in my mouth, and that, I think, is why the flavor is so strong (I've been primarily using Charlies Head Bangin Boogie but I have done several fills of Charlies Sea Salt Caramel Ice Cream with that tank, the caramel is really strong). My three new tanks fall somewhere in between and are a bit inconsistent, but I'm thinking that's user error. What I've found is that even strong/good flavor doesn't really do anything for me, it's nice, but I think that at this point in time that flavor chasing would be as pointless for me as cloud chasing.

    So, I'd think that it's pretty simple from here. Find a menthol that I'm happy with, dial in the nicotine level, use other flavors just to mix things up, vape for a while, and then see where I'm at.
  • samanthasamantha Posts: 3,517Administrator, Moderator admin
    No worries @Selcien - great feedback that is typical of new vapers. Don't feel discouraged. I can't recall what vapor device you are using - but if you are using any V2 Pro vaporizers, you can use our brand new pre-filled Pods. You get the same vapor experience without all the mess of filling carts with eliquid. Check them out here - they are available in menthol and red right now in 3 packs: https://www.v2.com/cartridges/pro-pods-3pk

    Perhaps they will help make your vaping process easier and less of a hassle :P 

  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    edited February 27
    @samantha

    None of the mods or tanks that I'm using are from V2, the mods and tanks that I bought in 2016 were most likely mentioned by me back then, I was blocked from the store by then, and V2 didn't have anything really comparable, so it didn't seem to matter, and nobody said anything about it either. Since coming back I've made it a point to not mention brands or product names as I'm not sure if that's frowned upon, which means that I have not mentioned what my 3 new tanks are beyond being MTL, and I ordered a 180 watt starter kit Sunday, and I won't mention brand/product name unless I'm given the okay to do so.

    The V2 Pro devices look like quality devices but they are only a curiosity to me, and I do not at all like pods as I don't feel that their convenience is worth the price tag (applies to all pods/pre-filled cartridges, not just what V2 sells). Yeah, I find glass bottles to be inconvenient, the unicorn bottles that I use after transferring the juice to them are not inconvenient.

    As for my last order from V2, it did not go well with Brewell Tobacco Series Ice, but I suspect that it's the tank, haven't had any luck with the .8 ohm coil, or with any juice that's been 50VG or higher. I've cleaned out two of my new MTL tanks and starting tomorrow I'll be using V2 PG juices exclusively with them, one coil will be 1.6 ohm, and the other will be a .8 ohm coil as I'm really hoping that I can use them, hate to throw brand new coils away, albeit I will only have three of the .8 ohm coils left by then.

    I haven't used the V2 PG Menthol much yet but it'll be going into rotation tomorrow. I have been using V2 Bold Leaf Menthol since getting it, I'm happy with it, but I think that I do need to increase the nicotine level, not sure if I should bump it up one notch to 1.8% or just go for the 2.4% though.... Okay, I went and took a look at that one chart, think that I'll go with "Whiskey", or 2.4% the next time that I order V2 PG juices.
  • David1886David1886 Posts: 589Member
    edited February 27
    @Selcien

    From experience I have 2 x V2 Trinity Mods and use another brand larger tank and found with MTL using a 0.8 ohm coil for best results had to use a very high VG ratio 70/30 and open the airflow and also a high wattage up to 40 watts as most coils have the wattage range stamped onto the coil.

    I still use my Series 3 units and the original EX Blanks when out and about and they still preform very well with the V2 PG liquids or when I don't want to use a larger mod and get a great throat hit especially with the EX Blanks.

    If you use the 0.8 ohm with the V2 Platinum PG liquid you will find it burns the liquid as a higher wattage is required for the lower resistance of the 0.8 ohm coil.

    The 1.6 ohm perfect for V2 PG liquids and I use 1.8% Bold Leaf Menthol but the throat hit will vary greatly depending on what type of tank you use and your new 180 watt starter kit is an overkill as you will never use the full 180 watts but should have a large battery capacity.

    Just my opinion.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @David1886

    The MTL tanks that I have are low wattage tanks. The 1.6 ohm coil for it has a range of 10w -14w, the .8 ohm coil for it has a range of 15w - 18w. Wattage shouldn't be an issue but if it is then I'll just have to toss out the .8 ohm coils.

    The 180 Watt starter kit that I ordered is solely for direct lung and solely for 70VG and higher, and while the .4 ohm coil that I'll be using with the tank that comes with it has an optimal range of 55w to 65w, I do have interest in a tank that has a recommended wattage of 100w. 180w isn't really overkill because if I understand things correctly, it's best not to push batteries to their maximum, besides, you have to take into account that battery capacity goes down over time, so what you'd call overkill I'd call headroom.
  • David1886David1886 Posts: 589Member
    @Selcien

    I agree with your comments as I did not know you were using for DTL and a 0.4 ohm coil at the much higher wattage and that is why I mentioned overkill as you only mentioned 1.6 & 0.8 ohm coils.

    I tried DTL once and nearly chocked as the head spin from the nicotine was to much for me to handle so now basically only use High PG liquids as the higher the VG Ratio the less flavor in the liquid used.

    Yes the larger wattage unit should be great as the last thing you need is your mod exploding as you see on the news all the time from users pushing there mods to the maximum and I did mention that the larger battery capacity is a bonus.

    I started with the 1.2% Bold Leaf Menthol and increased to 1.8% much better throat hit and flavor but still can be affected by the type of tank you use there are so many options for tanks.

    Hope it all works out and happy vaping.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @David1886

    Thanks for the clarification as to why you thought it was overkill. :) Yes, it would be overkill for those MTL tanks, not only power wise, but size wise. If I was in a position in which I had needed to buy mods for those MTL tanks I would go with mini mods, nice compact form factor, plenty of power and battery life for those tanks. My 40 watt mod had poor battery life with the tank that it came with, I'm really happy with how long the battery lasts with the MTL tanks, actually makes the mod useful for me now, rather than something I didn't want to use as I spent more time charging it than using it. Also, I did try the .8 ohm coil today and even at 12 watts it was too much for the PG juice, thankfully I can easily change coils without having to empty the tank. All three of my MTL tanks now have the 1.6 ohm coil, and I currently have V2 Menthol, V2 Bold Leaf Menthol, and V2 Peppermint Bark in my rotation (really nice to have more than one V2 juice loaded up at one time).

    As for DTL, it's important to get the nicotine level dialed down, I think that the most common nicotine level used is .3% and .6%, albeit I was talking to a guy at work who vapes (there's several), and he said that he's gotten too much nicotine even with .3%. Personally, I don't want my DTL vaping to be a crutch so I've decided that any new juice purchased for DTL is going to be nicotine free.

    As for flavor, while PG is a better carrier for flavor than VG, juice makers can compensate for VG heavy liquids by boosting the amount of flavoring used. It's like how tank makers compensate for the slower wicking of VG by increasing the size of the juice holes.

    Also, while it might be a better idea for me to go from 1.2% to 1.8% for MTL, I'm really tired of undershooting where I need to be, and at this point having it hit hard would be a welcome change. I expect to go through juice quickly on a DTL setup, that's the nature of producing large clouds, but my consumption of the V2 juices with my MTL tanks is higher than I like.

    I'll let you know how it goes with the new kit, Charlie's Head Bangin Boogie is what I'll be using to see how well it performs for me as I know for certain sure that Head Bangin Boogie should be really really good if I were to ever get the setup right.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    @David1886

    I have to say that I'm really happy with the new mod. Like the way it looks, like the feel of it (the material used for the sliding doors that cover the battery bays), it fits the hand nicely (they took the basic rectangle shape that they used with their past mods and pushed out each side, it's not roundish but fits the hand much better than a rectangle shape would), I also like the heft of it once the batteries are in it.

    As for the tank, there is a really noticeable improvement in the flavor over what I've gotten in the past, still not quite where I want it, but I do think that I'm getting there. Definitely going zero nicotine with it.
  • SelcienSelcien Posts: 69Member
    Okay, I guess it's time to post an update.

    Things have not worked out as I'd hoped that they would. The flavor that I got from the tank that came with my new mod is the best that I've gotten so far but there's a major problem, the way that I draw on it makes me prone to burning the cotton due to vaporizing the liquid from the cotton at a faster rate than it's getting saturated by the liquid in the tank, and dry cotton burns quite easily. I ended up burning the cotton in the first two atomizers, and got burnt taste from the third, threw it away before it could get worse, I learned my lesson there quite well. I had tried drawing faster, shortening the draws, closing the airflow, and all that did was deteriorate the experience/lessen the flavor while still not completely avoiding burning the cotton. I could likely salvage the tank by running 50/50 juices instead of VG dominant juices but unfortunately almost all of the juice that I have that are 50/50 are .6% nicotine, which is too much for me at 40+ watts, I have one nicotine free bottle of Black Note Solo but I do not like menthol with a DTL setup. I could buy the juices that I'd need but I feel like that would be a waste of money.

    I don't know if I mentioned it but I bought the tank that I had wanted, it turned out that it had an 8ml capacity rather than an 8.5 ml capacity. That tank had it's own fun, meaning that it leaked, like, really badly. It turned out that I was over tightening the atomizer, unfortunately, I have gotten some burnt taste from this tank too, so I'm at the point in which I feel like it's the inherent flaws of tanks that's causing the problem. Tanks basically contradict their own function, they need to saturate the wick so that it doesn't burn when activating the heating element while simultaneously preventing the wick from being oversaturated otherwise the whole tank could leak out, so basically a tank needs to balance the wicking with not leaking, and that balance can be thrown off by the end user. In my case the cotton gets burnt, in other cases people could flood the coil, and then you have the lucky people who very rarely run into either problem.

    What this means is that I've purchased my first RDA (rebuildable drip atomizer), it's a much more involved setup, I do have a lot to learn about them, but I really don't see any other choice here. If I'm to have any success with a DTL draw, with sub ohm coils, with VG dominant juices it's going to have to be with an RDA.

    Of course, that's the nicotine free setup, for the nicotine setups I'll be trying a line of juice that uses Nicotine Salts, ordered a bundle of six 30 ml bottles to try (much cheaper than buying single bottles), I won't mention names but suffice it to say not from V2. Also have a bottle of V2's Menthol and Bold Leaf Menthol at 2.4% strength due to be delivered on the 24th. I'll be using my MTL tanks with those juices.

    And thanks to V2's St. Patrick's Day sale I ended up ordering a Series 3 Vaporizer Kit, a V2 Pro Wall Adapter, and a 48 pack of V2 Pro Pods (2.4% Menthol). I'm not sure about the 2.4% nicotine strength but I'd rather go too high than too low, and I basically got the Series 3 Vaporizer Kit for free. Also figured out how to use the V4F points which covered all but 4 cents of the tobacco settlement fee.

    I think that I've done everything that I can to give myself the best chance of success with vaping, now all I can do is wait to see what the results are, and hope for the best.
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